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Episode 1 of the new series ‘Dev Log’, talking to game developers about game development!
I sat down with Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games, the team behind Path of Exile, and talked about the new player experience, narrative versus mechanical design, how you respect a players time, and how you keep a game stable after 30+ expansions.
Thank you to the Patreon supporters and Twitch subs who keep the channel alive.
Josh G
22.07.2022VR path of Exile?! I want to try that lol
rabb1tdotcom
22.07.2022I only play in leagues every 3-4 cycles, maybe less often. (Usually stop around level 35 when it turns into 'spam all the ae all the time'.) At this point I'm really waiting for PoE 2.0. Is there any word on when it's due out? I thought it was going to be out by now?
Arkayelos Fernando
22.07.2022I played Diablo 1, 2, Warcraft 1,2,3 Starcraft 1,2 Command and Conquer, AoE, AoM, etc, etc and… Now, my favorite video game is Path of Exile, it's excellent!!!
BlackEcology
22.07.2022Chris Wilson: I haven't played WOW since Burning Crusade
Chat: docLeave
leo saunders
22.07.2022Omg this was such a refreshing interview.
I love smaller companies. Usually they don't shy away from talking about other games. The moment you see the PR guy/CEO talk about other games/products with euphemisms, you know they are trying to hide their shortcomings.
33:37 "tl;dw know your product, know your audience, know how to interpret data"; 43:33 this is a true lead designer. if as CEO you have such a guy, just shut up, f nod and watch the company's bank account increase.
倒带
22.07.2022这光头说了什么，有谁能帮翻译下么。
GamersForge
22.07.2022LOL Josh, were you roasting him? Trolling him???? Or just trolling yourself because you came into an interview like this totally clueless??? 10,000 players????
Path of Exile has an average of OVER 1 MILLION players EVERY DAY. On average it has about 50-80k players AT ANY GIVEN TIME, but DAILY logins averages over 1mil/day.
POE is bigger than Diablo. Did you not do your homework????
Valraz
22.07.2022Amazing interview. Thank you both, Josh and Chris
Jew Train
22.07.2022I am now waiting for you to talk with the developers of RAID: SHADOW LEGENDS!
skrounst
22.07.2022This might be the best game developer interview in the history of game developer interviews. I only have about 100 hours into PoE over the course of a few leagues, but I was still able to follow along with everything, and things were said in an interesting way using easy to understand references, and examples. Both of them are extremely eloquent, and adept at what they are doing. Top notch stuff! ❤
Jan Beránek
22.07.2022Chris is liar and he dont know players of his own game. He love harder game? Suure, thats why he destroy HC playerbase. How can someone trust him after few last years … And game, where creators tell you : you can use logout macro (3rd side program???), its ok … sure yes, becouse their game have sh*ty optimalization with bad servers. So we have "PRO HC" players using this macro everytime they make some mistake??? And remember when "game" tell you, you play too long? Now? No problem … retards play 40hrs in row, so that they can leave league after 14 days XD They just fck on player fun, on good league, on testing something. They just focus on monetization and HC fanboys aplaud them and give them hundreds of dollars for betatesting their league 😀
Nicky DC
22.07.2022no we dont play PVP…. just saying
Arsalan M.
22.07.2022based
JTD472
22.07.2022“Hack and slash RPG”
Shout out to anybody playing melee in 3.18
Rick Diculous
22.07.2022Dude is so genuine it makes me wish I could get into PoE. It's like beer, or jalapeños; I really want to like them but I just simply don't. It's a massive shame.
Epoch Catharsis
22.07.2022Seasons killed it for me ages ago.. Why try to make a powerful character when your pushed every couple months to rebuild a new one with another bloated mechanic added.. Then the norm is for players to look down on anyone playing "standard".. Talk about ground hog day on steroids. Great gameplay, huge world.. Never ending restarts.. Just add new end bosses, items etc.
P M
22.07.2022Been playing PoE regularly for >5 years. Best interview I've seen, by far. And a welcome, refreshing change from sycophantic PoE streamers. Very well done Josh.
Evanor
22.07.2022I had no idea mtg was getting so bloated like I've experienced in pokemon tcg. The sets are massive with a major bulk of them only being 1 per booster box on average, sometimes less. As a long time collector we joked about the massive e-reader sets when wizards of the coast were losing the licence for pokemon that they were just trying to cash grab while they could, but sets these days are consistently bigger than even those comically massive sets
gustavo hermandio
22.07.2022yo buddy, why is there no auction house in your game ?
matchwk
22.07.2022Game is good but is sooooo unintuitive and messy. Without watching a video or going through website and stuff, is nearly impossible to get what you want or know what to do. Great game but is sooo messy and frustrating.
Aethyn
20.07.2022I wish I could like PoE, but the nature of leagues and missable content puts me off, along with the very egregiously expensive cosmetic sets. I just want to play one character, experience everything, and be able to drop at most 20 bucks for any cosmetic set at a time. Seeing something cost more than an entire game in the shop is something that makes me uninstall.
Goldfingers Gaming Channel
20.07.2022Wow, now only if the rest of the gaming industry was as open and honest about their games, it would be a better world, the message is clear make games you are passionate about and don't follow the fads in the gaming industry, be honest with your player base = success. Full Stop.
Trill Macmillan
20.07.2022When Chris mentions players checking out the league mechanics to see if they like the mechanic and will stick around and play it is spot on. I do this almost every league to be honest though i normally skip the majority because it's buff x mob or y area until it's super rippy and then hope for loot. Path of exile has enough random RIP moments without the league mechanic needing to get involved.
Alex LuckyStar
20.07.2022Would like to see interview with Swen Vincke from Larian Studios (Divinity OS I/II, Baldur's Gate 3), he also has passion to his own games and tons of credability.
Despond
20.07.2022"If the game isn't for them then we don't want to force it to be". If only other devs followed this rather than sell their own credibility and stance to try dragnet every possible desire and have a thinly-spread out shallow game just there to catch profit only. Very few developers think like this now in a world of 100% profit driven games, fast-food templates and greedy payment models. Integrity is rarely seen.
Riverwind Gameplays
20.07.2022Chris Wilson lying about how he is destroying PoE slowly.
MRMichyBio
20.07.2022You should totally try and grab an interview with the devs at deep rock galactic. They're honestly a great early access success story.
Victor Michael
20.07.2022Josh: What's the single biggest problem faced by new game designers today?
Chris: NFTs
Guy deserves a medal
Daniel Peralta
20.07.2022Mrs Charlotte's is legit and her method works like magic I keep on earning every single week with her new strategy.
Ray D
20.07.2022I loved POE and it makes me so sad that they really only want to cater to their hardcore players (Edit: or as Chris puts it "Proper Gamers"). I wish they'd make something for us, well not gonna say entirely casual but, more moderate players.
Thank you for this interview past couple of days i've been inching some PoE checking if things have changed, hearing his thoughts it's obvious nothing's changed and I am not coming back. My hands literally cannot play his game anymore.
Bofa D
19.07.2022Josh LITERALLY talking to the Dali Lama. HES BOUGHT BY TIBET PEOPLE!! OPEN YOUR EYEZZZZ
Sovreighn
19.07.2022POE is the greatest Action RPG/HacknSlash there is and ever was on the market today, there are obviously some others that are good but POE is KING, Ive been angry in the past at Chris Wilson and GGG for things in leagues but at the end of the day like he said I go play something else and come back and its all gucci again. Looking forward to next league, Sentinel wasnt really my jam but I still made it all the way through maps and even got me a mageblood off a t8 harvest encounter by exchanging a common Unique mace for another Unique.
Bodhi Hape
19.07.2022I love POE and the fact its kiwis running it loving it even more
daincredibleflow
19.07.2022Chris makes me want to play POE just because he is genuinely a gamer and he makes something that he loves not because it’s bring in the bag I’m a new player for sure
Pryce
19.07.2022Such a passionate developer for his game, and Josh asking the best questions. Great interview all round. However being acquired by TENCENT is never "fine". This is the exemplification of how the western world is completely blind to the true intentions of the "global China 2049 initiative". TENCENT and the CCP are creating the biggest civilian surveillance network this world has ever known. I understand why your players were, and probably still are worried.
Pablo Bermudez
19.07.2022Bobby stein Next time plsss
ekurisona
19.07.2022this was freaking awesome
thanks Josh
been following path of exile since before beta – thanks Chris
Narethian
19.07.2022Very interesting, but it took me awhile to get through that.
I'm not sure how honest Chris really is. I can't judge that. He sounds like nice guy.
My first time playing PoE was quite bad, the new player experience was awful in my opinion. However this was at a time PoE was relatively new I think. There are now at least some improvements but it's not much. Granted it would be a huge if not impossible task to try to teach everything the game has to offer in a perfect manner. I think PoE needs to cut down on old mechanics/expansions.
I only gave PoE another try because I saw a streamer play it. He highly recommended a guide for a league starter build. Not anything specific only a league starter. With that I had a vastly different experience so much so that I could enjoy the game for much longer and was willing to pay. I strongly believe PoE ( and other games ) "force" you to use guides in some way or another. They created the "problem" with guides themself.
nikroth
19.07.2022very insightful conversation ! my thanks to both !
AwesomeXav
19.07.2022I've never been the guy to have idols, but you might be my first god.
Danie van der Westhuizen
18.07.2022Great interview… as for your gameplay, put your left click on move only, or put a guard skill on left click 😉 You will still move, but you wont attack when you actually need to move.
Onslaught73
18.07.2022.. epicness creep .. words of the day
Onslaught73
18.07.2022awesome interview!
edit. even after watching the whole thing. i want to work for chris wilson
Gaming Genes
18.07.2022It's true that if you just make it perfect to only some people, that "some people" are just enough to make your game sustainable in long-term. In contrast, if you attempt to make the game for EVERYONE, your game just can't go deep enough to each player's soul and hence no long-term retention can be guaranteed. Perhaps the philosophy is simple: "Don't be greedy", LOL xD
Bjørns Time is Relative
18.07.2022Data is great when used properly. Gotta be very careful when you use it, it's easy to see causation where there's correlation, and it shouldn't be used for everything.
Good to see that Chris knows that.
Robert no
18.07.2022We need more devs like Chris and his team. GGG is an amazing company. Happy to support them.
Onslaught73
18.07.2022*final words*… but you will still die in act two. 😆
akuma no kaido
18.07.2022Josh , this might be just a random comment on your youtube page but i'd really want to hear your opinion on an unknown MMORPG , mostly it's cause the game is french so it doesn't have a very big audience to reach out to , it's called wakfu , it is totally free and i'd really like to hear your opinion on that game
Nawe
18.07.2022based
Mike Libby
18.07.2022man i wish C&C would make a comeback