Let’s talk about GW’s huge rules drop for the New-Squats!
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0:00 Intro
0:44 Battle Report
2:24 Void Armour
4:31 Judgement Tokens
7:43 Hernkyn Pioneers
9:31 The Karl
11:01 Other Units
13:24 Power Levels
Mordred
15.09.2022They're unit points seem to be really cheap to me, which is interesting
DrFunctional
13.09.2022Because of course they do…. fucking gw ruining the game with every step and its ALL people who buy into this horse shit's fault. All the FOMOs and "cOmPeTiTiVe PlAyErS" who literally pay to win are a fucking plague on this game and its communities.
XV9Genesis
13.09.2022Guards get an update, everyone hits on 3s now lasgun are now rapid fire 12 3+ save whatever sells
RogueMephilesClone
13.09.2022Judgment tokens? Sounds like somedwarfy busted out The Book.
Andrew Hinz
13.09.2022Seeing a faction able to wipe half an enemy army turn 1 to show how strong it plays seems like the opposite of fun. The rules for an army can be literally anything and to have one that functions as a virtual auto-win to sell the models is really sad. It almost defeats the purpose of a game; no wonder I'm at a point that 95% of my time with this hobby is just painting.
Squidopedia
13.09.2022I’M GONNA GROOOODGE
jjak jjak
13.09.2022For historical reasons, I want Voltan league bikes and trikes!
Mustacheslayer
13.09.2022ROCK AND STONE
Equos
13.09.2022Jesus, they really are insecure about how this army will sell. Hence the broken op rules. Gosh
G.P. Blue
13.09.2022They're going to release these Squats and then a few months later release an errata to patch out all the OP rules every army gets when it first gets released. Gotta sell those models right?
finnewar
13.09.2022Leagues of votann has bad armour save.
Grithertime
11.09.2022Well, good to see crazy rules are the way ahead. Also great to see that guard are last. I never really thought rules sell models… then Void Armor…
finnewar
11.09.20224+save is bad.
Sindri Myr
11.09.2022Wow, testing a new army against Guard is like fighting your younger sister: If you win, there's really nothing to brag about, and if you loose, you'd never want anyone to know. So not sure if that was really a reliable test, if they wanted to show how the new kids on the block fare against other factions.
Haldor
11.09.2022Their void armour is the same as the iron warriors legion trait
Eddy Alamo
11.09.2022Don't worry they will nerf them in the 10th edition. They will cost almost twice the points and shoot way less. Remember aggressors…
Tulkash01
11.09.2022I don't think GW choose the guard because it aknowledges it as weak. GW employees rarely consider what is competitive and even fewer of them KNOW what is OP in actual play. That said I would have loved to have an Ork vs Dwarf death match. It's as classic as a grudge-match can be and not going that way is truly baffling imo.
James Bigby
11.09.20221:00 “guard are the faction who aren’t getting their codex until after leagues of votann apparently” so what games workshop is saying is that guard are gonna get their codex last, most likely a month before 10th edition comes out knowing my luck, giving us a month to use their codex before a new edition comes out, in which we will probably be last in that one as well, they must really hate guard players
Hitman_Zulu
11.09.2022So dont play the local whale with the new super dwarf army, got it.
Thomas Boni
11.09.2022These guys fixing to asshole my deathwing
Antares
11.09.2022I shall wait a couple of months, and then scoop them up on eBay, after GW nerf.
At the same time, the other part of the problem are those "meta cheesers" that wants just win and abuse common sense and loopholes.
CynicalCortex
10.09.2022Great, another thing with what is essentially AoC and yet Custodes, the golden demigods with armor forged out of the same material as the emperor's own personal armor, get jack and squat for a premium. peachy
Admiral Fujitora
10.09.2022What do you guys think will be the point cost of the units (just estimate freely)
Antonio Ricardo
10.09.2022Releases like this is why we need a full reset
Ragnar Baron
10.09.2022Uggggghhhh I wants it so bad but I don’t need it…. But I want it
Andrew Garvin
10.09.2022I kinda figured they would make these guys broken into oblivion. Weapons are too strong now, it's getting to the point where if you don't have an invul you're basically fucked
Hewei Lim
10.09.2022Dwarves and their handcannons are back!!!
Znail
10.09.2022Seems like it's more fun to not play against Votann until they get nerfed some.
Baz B
10.09.2022Someone at GW has a bit of a questionable sense of humour with setting up a brand new faction faction with actual literal dark age AI robots, with the most rule and power starved faction in the game.
Aoi_Demon
10.09.2022I feel like they need a bit more gritty look, after all dwarves like digging holes. Hopefully there is a pickaxe for a weapon. Otherwise, they look like they will be a fun faction to play.
Also, you could blast some Wind Rose – Diggy Diggy Hole. Lol
Mr Speigel
10.09.2022Gotta roll out those crazy rules to sell those bland characterless models
Colton Stergue
08.09.2022Man I can’t wait as a knight player to play agains this… I love the GW arms races and I love having a half finished codex!!
Colton Stergue
08.09.2022Also can’t wait to hate this faction as much as the Tao lol
intense_pickle
08.09.2022For anyone who thinks they're OP. It's fine, the next codex will be stronger…Thanks GW for the lazy power creep. Matt Ward would be proud.
shadowl1980
08.09.2022Why i stopped playing, they do not know how to make rules.
Paddy
08.09.2022The midgets got a codex before the guard.
Wong40k
08.09.2022Here's a trick on how to benefit from the army of the month:
Wait for the squats to come blowing every other armies apart, look closely at your hobby group for rage-quiters. Then at the height of Squat dominance approached the players who were really down ridden by the league, offered to buy off the units you were eying for discounts. Profit!
Matthew Melton
08.09.2022Is it just me but this reduce AP by one (minimum zero) just seems to nullify all the AP -1 that tyranids, eldar shuriken, orks choppas in previous codexes.
It's like a botched newspaper under filler repair on a rusty morris minor.
I think we need a full rules reset in 10th, to simplify all of this. Having to have a whole bunch of extra bits of paper just to work out what factions will be saving against a particular gun at the list building stage just makes it really complicated.
Tobias Krämer
08.09.2022I am wondering how the Brutal Kunning Trait works against Votan.
Theoretically you are not rerolling hits and/or wounds but generating additional attacks for everything that did not inflict damage.
wimpb
08.09.2022So we have Space Marines, Tall Space Marines and now Short Space Marines.
Winston Smith - Ministry of Truth
08.09.2022Shows just how little idea GW have when they set up a batrep where their new faction uses Guard as a punching bag to create hype.
yanomamo89
07.09.2022I cant wait!
EnRandomSten
07.09.2022Oh wow a new faction being busted op! How unexpected! Cant wait for 11th edition when gw will slip up and accedentally buff ad mech again so it will be worth actually playing this game again.
Jonathan davis
07.09.2022i could imagine the leagues of votann being a dyson sphere constructed by the survivors of the squats housing all stc and stc fragments that they possessed including such ancestor cores that can physically move around the galaxy at sub light speeds mind you, with orbital rings and plate around said dyson sphere to protect it. Constructed from a partial ring to a full blown sphere, and further fortified with rings, Ever since they were thought to have went extinct, would also explain the only reason the won't be instantly overpowered by the imperium
average projects
07.09.2022With the power level that we see would this look like a horde army if so I play grey knights and I’m looking into my next army and if this is a horde I’m all over these I like vikings and that so this is space vikings even better please emperor provide!!
Jan Beljak
07.09.2022Bolt shotguns? Sign me in. Still wonder how will my boyz fare against stunties.
Andrew Crawford
07.09.2022I still feel unreasonably salty that a Kin gets 2 attacks base when a freaking firstborn Space Marine doesn’t….
Man Of Action
07.09.2022Warmachine called…
They want their figures back.
Man Of Action
07.09.2022We go through this nonsense with every new faction.
It takes about three years to shake them out in the field, before the rules lawyers yell loud enough to flesh them out.
Caffeine
07.09.2022To those people who are whining that Custodes don't get AoC.
Lemme visualise it for you.
I'd have to hit you with Melta guns, before I even make you roll your invuln saves.
How would that be fair? For an army where 2+ are nearly on everything, with nearly everything getting a 5+ invuln.